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where were you when you heard joe biden yesterday? >> i don't remember. because we don't see this as a tremendous deal. the romney campaign is good at jumping on whatever out of context comment of the day is, what they're not good at is understanding the challenges that middle class face. the fact that they don't believe the middle class bore the biggest brunt of the economic crisis is born out in your poll today. and a number of other polls that mitt romney doesn't understand the challenges that the middle class faces. what joe biden was saying, at which he often says on the campaign trail, is that because of the policies of the last administration and some of the same policies that mitt romney and paul ryan want to go back to, the middle class was severely punished and has take an while to bounce back. but the president has put the middle class at the center of everything that he has done over the past four years and he'll talk about that tonight. >> now, one of the things that the republicans are sure to talk about tonight is debt. trillions of dollars
where were you when you heard joe biden yesterday? >> i don't remember. because we don't see this as a tremendous deal. the romney campaign is good at jumping on whatever out of context comment of the day is, what they're not good at is understanding the challenges that middle class face. the fact that they don't believe the middle class bore the biggest brunt of the economic crisis is born out in your poll today. and a number of other polls that mitt romney doesn't understand the...
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too joe biden is talking about the record of the obama-biden administration saying they are buried. jamie: will the president have tee dress this tonight? will he have to talk about why the middle class was -- will he distance himself from his policies playing a role. >> he may have to put context into biden's statement. >> why is it that whenever this administration, whether it's the president or joe biden actually tells the truth. they tell you what's on their mind like the president saying that the private sector is doing fine or telling entrepreneurs like me that we didn't build our business. why is it when they tell the truth suddenly they are taken out of context. >> there you go again to quote one of our great republican presidents. you note context of that. >> the context was worse than what he said. he said you entrepreneurs put out your chest, you think you are so smart, but you didn't build it. that's the context. >> you left out what he was talking about before that and that was not the tone of his voice. you are not only misrepresenting -- you are myth representing the
too joe biden is talking about the record of the obama-biden administration saying they are buried. jamie: will the president have tee dress this tonight? will he have to talk about why the middle class was -- will he distance himself from his policies playing a role. >> he may have to put context into biden's statement. >> why is it that whenever this administration, whether it's the president or joe biden actually tells the truth. they tell you what's on their mind like the...
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joe biden. no, don't boo. he is the best thing we've got going, guys. >> reporter: now denver has always been big for this president. in 2008 is where he launched the hope and change in front of the great columns of the democratic convention. 2009. this is where he signed the stimulus in law. tonight, he puts it all on the line trying to make his case for a second term. bret? >> bret: ed, thank you. experts will tell you the challenger often gets a slight bump in the polls after the first debate by standing next to the president. romney is hoping for that and more as he takes half the spotlight tonight. chief political correspondent carl cameron has that part of the story. >> reporter: romney prepared for weeks. 57% for the latest gallup poll think the president will win the debates to only 33% for romney on this evening main topic the economy economy, romney has an edge. 50% say things will improve if he becomes president to 35% who say they will get worse. if the president is re-elected, only 48% say it will
joe biden. no, don't boo. he is the best thing we've got going, guys. >> reporter: now denver has always been big for this president. in 2008 is where he launched the hope and change in front of the great columns of the democratic convention. 2009. this is where he signed the stimulus in law. tonight, he puts it all on the line trying to make his case for a second term. bret? >> bret: ed, thank you. experts will tell you the challenger often gets a slight bump in the polls after the...
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joining us now is the former republican vice presidential nominee went head to head with senator joe biden during 2008 campaign. the former alaska governor sara palin with us. governor, thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> and let's start with the general observations of the debate. >> it was so encouraging. this is a great night for anyone who has been longing to low the -- know truly who could turn things around? we don't have to go bankrupt. we can restore all is good in our private sector and families in the middle class. mitt romney able to articulate what many of us have been desiring. a big government agenda, and policies of barack obama. do we have to repeat those? can ge we go into another direction? rely on those principle that's built up this country into the greatest nation on earth. can we go back to that direction now? mitt romney gave us a reason why now, we know we have a clear choice. the contrast made tonight. >> sean: i found the president stammering and on defense, mitt romney on offense. one moment interesting to me is when president obama couldn't explain his own d
joining us now is the former republican vice presidential nominee went head to head with senator joe biden during 2008 campaign. the former alaska governor sara palin with us. governor, thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> and let's start with the general observations of the debate. >> it was so encouraging. this is a great night for anyone who has been longing to low the -- know truly who could turn things around? we don't have to go bankrupt. we can restore all is good in...
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channel in vice president joe biden right now. what was he trying to say obviously didn't come across as he clearly would like. >> well, what he was clearly trying to say and the obama campaign was quick to point this out is that what he was trying to say is that the middle class was buried urntd george w. bush and that's what started the problems for the middle class and that the obama administration has started to pull it out by its boot straps. and so the obama campaign just in case we didn't get that has a statement that says that the romney campaign is taking this entirely out of context. it's obviously in looking at the full transcript that joe biden was talking about the fact that the middle class was buried under failed bush policies. and of course they say romney/ryan would change all that. however, this is an opportunity, which the romney campaign is taking to say, you know what, we agree with you. the middle class has been buried and we're going to change that. imagine this as kind of the dry season in the west in the s
channel in vice president joe biden right now. what was he trying to say obviously didn't come across as he clearly would like. >> well, what he was clearly trying to say and the obama campaign was quick to point this out is that what he was trying to say is that the middle class was buried urntd george w. bush and that's what started the problems for the middle class and that the obama administration has started to pull it out by its boot straps. and so the obama campaign just in case we...
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look at the jobs, unemployment rate, the suffering of the american middle class, buied as joe biden reminded us. the policies of barack obama. he turned to the moderator and asked him to change the subject. let's move on to something else. we're not going to move on to something else. this is the issue of the moment. >> at one point during the debate, governor romney acknowledged his plan is basically a voucher program for medicare, and i'm curious how that will go over in florida. >> he acknowledges for current beneficiaries, people on it now or about to retire will have the exact same medicare they've always had. he said for future generations like paul ryan, like me, when we retire, we'll get subsidy support from the govnment. it will match the level of medicare. if we want to stay on regular mode care, we can do that, or we have a choice. go out and buy private medicare. if you are very rich, my generation, you have to pay a little more. it's a machine to save medicare. where is the president's plan to save medicare? >> the president would say his plan would not to go with the romney/rya
look at the jobs, unemployment rate, the suffering of the american middle class, buied as joe biden reminded us. the policies of barack obama. he turned to the moderator and asked him to change the subject. let's move on to something else. we're not going to move on to something else. this is the issue of the moment. >> at one point during the debate, governor romney acknowledged his plan is basically a voucher program for medicare, and i'm curious how that will go over in florida....
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what about the white house momentum could be lost because of joe biden obama biden want to raise taxes by $1 billion. guess what? yes we do we want to let the $1 trillion tax cut expire so the middle-class does not have to bear the burden. charles: mitt romney does not waste any time. >> is today the president said they do want to raise taxes. i don't want to raise them on any americans. i want to create good jobs. charles: mondex guess says the higher tax rates will lead to higher unemployment rates. with class warfare it does not matter the residual damage they're going with this. hoping the public cannot connect the dots? >> it will be interesting hallwood joe biden follows up. $1 trillion tax hike where we want to go. four years ago they told us no tax increases on 81 making less than $250,000. the economy is languishing worse where looking for more tax hikes and four years ago it was zero tax hikes? we have all been hit now we know how the middle-class and people will be affected. obamacare has at least seven pin tax hikes and 30 more on top of that. charles: we discover a couple
what about the white house momentum could be lost because of joe biden obama biden want to raise taxes by $1 billion. guess what? yes we do we want to let the $1 trillion tax cut expire so the middle-class does not have to bear the burden. charles: mitt romney does not waste any time. >> is today the president said they do want to raise taxes. i don't want to raise them on any americans. i want to create good jobs. charles: mondex guess says the higher tax rates will lead to higher...
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that's the challenge for biden. long before anyone heard of paul ryan we were afraid of paul ryan because we were afraid of what he wants to do to uh you, health care and a heartless approach to balancing the budget. >> when you talk about economic pain and the squeezing of seniors or the fraying of the fabric of the american social compact joe biden can speak with a romance, eloquence and an incredibly compelling narrative. >> but he's always the wild card. >> i expect 20 e-mails from the romney campaign proclaiming everything he said to be a gaffe. >> coming up, the growing chorus of doubt mon goring about the job reports points to a society where facts are debatable. how have conspiracy theorists eroded trust in government? mike rowe here at a ford tell me fiona, who's having a big tire event? your ford dealer. who has 11 major brands to choose from? your ford dealer. who's offering a rebate? your ford dealer. who has the low price tire guarantee... affording peace of mind to anyone who might be in the market for
that's the challenge for biden. long before anyone heard of paul ryan we were afraid of paul ryan because we were afraid of what he wants to do to uh you, health care and a heartless approach to balancing the budget. >> when you talk about economic pain and the squeezing of seniors or the fraying of the fabric of the american social compact joe biden can speak with a romance, eloquence and an incredibly compelling narrative. >> but he's always the wild card. >> i expect 20...
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what are the similarities between ted olson and joe biden? >> they are are about the same age and ted olson is one really good debater. i hope joe biden shows more than ted olson because he is one of the best litigators in america. he has studied joe biden's tapes and records and style and ted as you know is one of the best litigators in america and pretty good at adapting to that. >> chris: have you got lines already prepared? attack lines? >> i'm not the a line guy. you know me well. i don't try to be anybody other than who i am. i believe in what i believe and i do what i do and i really believe in the policies we are providing that we are pursuing. and at the end of the day i'm just going to go in there and be me. >> chris: i know you were hoping that joe biden makes one of his occasional gaffes. >> he doesn't do that in debaits. the gaffes he is kind of ledgentary for this. that is not in these situations. he is a disciplined person when speaks in these kind of situations and doesn't produce gaffes in these moments. those are when is off
what are the similarities between ted olson and joe biden? >> they are are about the same age and ted olson is one really good debater. i hope joe biden shows more than ted olson because he is one of the best litigators in america. he has studied joe biden's tapes and records and style and ted as you know is one of the best litigators in america and pretty good at adapting to that. >> chris: have you got lines already prepared? attack lines? >> i'm not the a line guy. you know...
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biden will be counseled on how to avoid mr. obama's mistakes and even correct them with a more aggressive prosecution of the republican ticket. it's a lot of pressure that could backfire. >> it's interesting going forward into this week, i think it puts pressure on joe biden maybe exactly what the obama team didn't want, which is biden to feel the pressure of having to do well, which maybe is not a good place for biden to be. >> let me bring in white house reporter for "the new york times" peter baker. peter, thank you so much for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> what's your anticipation here? i think it's obvious what happened with the president debate puts a lot of pressure on joe biden to perform exceptionally but it puts pressure for different reasons on congressman ryan. >> absolutely. look, there's a momentum at this point for governor romney coming out of last week's debate. it stole the opportunity for the obama campaign to kind of cement what had been building into a modest lead. so, you know, people don't tend
biden will be counseled on how to avoid mr. obama's mistakes and even correct them with a more aggressive prosecution of the republican ticket. it's a lot of pressure that could backfire. >> it's interesting going forward into this week, i think it puts pressure on joe biden maybe exactly what the obama team didn't want, which is biden to feel the pressure of having to do well, which maybe is not a good place for biden to be. >> let me bring in white house reporter for "the new...
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. >> we saw a gentler joe biden. it may be more aggressive than we saw this time than president obama last week. maybe he'll bring up the 47% and bain capital. stay tuned, suzanne. >> tell us a little bit about that debate that happened not with the real guys, but fox news's bill o'reilly and comedy central's john stewart facing off over the weekend. >> yeah. i think this was a little more entertaining than the one we saw last wednesday. these guys dent have the burden of running for president, but enough of me. let's take a listen. >> mike is here in the audience sxfshgs he asked this question. if you could see any american elected president, who would you choose and why? >> i would say clint eastwood have to be my guy. >> well, why don't we ask him. so, um -- what? tell them to do what? >> that was one of the lighter moments. you know, there was some serious parts to this debate. both gentlemen talked policy, and i think, though, the american viewers were the winners in that debate, suzanne. >> absolutely. thank yo
. >> we saw a gentler joe biden. it may be more aggressive than we saw this time than president obama last week. maybe he'll bring up the 47% and bain capital. stay tuned, suzanne. >> tell us a little bit about that debate that happened not with the real guys, but fox news's bill o'reilly and comedy central's john stewart facing off over the weekend. >> yeah. i think this was a little more entertaining than the one we saw last wednesday. these guys dent have the burden of...
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also, the biden ryan debate in kentucky. will the vice president avoid any quote bumps in the road as the president described his own performance over the weekend and how will paul ryan perform on the biggest stage of his career. plus, you say tomato. i say electoral. find out how some trade decisions could affect the election in some key states. good morning, it's monday, october 8th, 2012. i'm chuck todd. i know some of you are celebrating as if this is some federal holiday. there is no day off when it's 29 days until the november election. if mitt romney is going to be president of the united states, then next week, iowa and ohio will be coin flip races. we're seeing a more confidence mitt romney on the trail. >> we had a little debate earlier this week and i enjoyed myself. you had the chance to hear his answers or non answers. now, of course, days later, we're hearing his excuses. >> but while the romney campaign body language has changed, both are anxiously awaiting the first good post debate polls. those will give us
also, the biden ryan debate in kentucky. will the vice president avoid any quote bumps in the road as the president described his own performance over the weekend and how will paul ryan perform on the biggest stage of his career. plus, you say tomato. i say electoral. find out how some trade decisions could affect the election in some key states. good morning, it's monday, october 8th, 2012. i'm chuck todd. i know some of you are celebrating as if this is some federal holiday. there is no day...
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biden is going to come incredibly hard at romney. ryan has to defend romney and in effect consolidate romney's gains. like coming in in the second leg of a relay race. your team is ahead and you got to hold the lead and got to, of course, attack the obama biden record but above all sort of consolidate what romney did in the first debate and not let biden undercut it. >> geraldo: so you think that joe biden has to do something the president did not. he has to take it to his opponent? >> he is totally going to do that. not to ryan but to romney. if i were biden i would take all 45 minutes of the 90 minutes i have to attack romney both on the record and romney was wrong about the $5 trillion tax cut and doesn't do anything for the unsinced. uninsured. and raise things that obama didn't raise for whatever reason. the 47%. george w. bush was not mentioned in the debate wednesday night. bain capital. it will be a big assault both personal and in policy terms on mitt romney from joe biden. puts paul ryan in a tricky position. he would like
biden is going to come incredibly hard at romney. ryan has to defend romney and in effect consolidate romney's gains. like coming in in the second leg of a relay race. your team is ahead and you got to hold the lead and got to, of course, attack the obama biden record but above all sort of consolidate what romney did in the first debate and not let biden undercut it. >> geraldo: so you think that joe biden has to do something the president did not. he has to take it to his opponent?...
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so, you are not going to rattle joe biden. joe biden has been on the national stage, ran for president twice, a sitting vice president. what i hope to achieve is to give people an alternative. a very different governing philosophy, different policies, and, joe is very good on the attack. joe is very good, at trying to confuse the issues. so, that the person who leaves the debate is not confused about who strands fands for what. >> chris: you have ted olson, supreme court appellate lawyer, respected in the country, and won bush versus gore as your standin. >> ted olson is one good debater and i hope joe biden shows up more than ted olson, he's one of the best litigators in america but what ted has done is studied joe biden's tapes and record and joe biden's, john style and said, as you know, one of the best litigators in america and is good at adapting to that. >> chris: have you got lines already prepared, attack lines. >> i'm not a "line" guy, i'm more of a gut guy. i'm more of a -- you know me well, i don't try to be anybody
so, you are not going to rattle joe biden. joe biden has been on the national stage, ran for president twice, a sitting vice president. what i hope to achieve is to give people an alternative. a very different governing philosophy, different policies, and, joe is very good on the attack. joe is very good, at trying to confuse the issues. so, that the person who leaves the debate is not confused about who strands fands for what. >> chris: you have ted olson, supreme court appellate lawyer,...
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i don't want paul ryan to underestimate joe biden. and ryan has to not sound like a policy wonk. and he broke down the issues in laymen's terms that people can understand. ryan at least he passed a budget and you and i both know that washington d.c. is not democrat and republican, it's people working together and harry reid hasn't passed one. socce so, i think with the debate, that paul ryan is more prepared than the administration. >> jamie: doug, what impact does the jobs report of the last week. i've heard it interpreted 42 different ways, for democrats, how can they use it and what do they need to overcome in the latest numbers? >> at the very least, jamie, the jobs report says that the argument that mitt romney was making about the economy and president obama has to be at least some point attenuated, meaning that bottom line, with unemployment going below 8% for the first time since the start of the administration in '09, the obama administration can make the case that some of their policies have produced some results. given the debate results on tuesday night, this is a pot
i don't want paul ryan to underestimate joe biden. and ryan has to not sound like a policy wonk. and he broke down the issues in laymen's terms that people can understand. ryan at least he passed a budget and you and i both know that washington d.c. is not democrat and republican, it's people working together and harry reid hasn't passed one. socce so, i think with the debate, that paul ryan is more prepared than the administration. >> jamie: doug, what impact does the jobs report of the...
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but you know, for those us in the press that is the nice thing about joe biden. he is always sort of ad-libbing and giving us great things to write about. gregg: that updates the biden gaffe clock that the rnc always run on their website. paul ryan seems to have recalculated the infamous 47% remark that, hess running mate uttered. take a listen to this. >> today, 70% of americans get more benefits from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. so you could argue we're already past that tippingpoint. the good news is, survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center-right, 70-30 country. 70% of the americans want the american dream. they believe the in the american idea. only 30% want the welfare state. what that tells us at least half of those people currently in that category are there not of their wish or their will. gregg: is this doubling down on the entitlement dependency argument? i know parenthetically our own "fox news poll" found 63% of the americans who indeed agree with the argument that too many folks in
but you know, for those us in the press that is the nice thing about joe biden. he is always sort of ad-libbing and giving us great things to write about. gregg: that updates the biden gaffe clock that the rnc always run on their website. paul ryan seems to have recalculated the infamous 47% remark that, hess running mate uttered. take a listen to this. >> today, 70% of americans get more benefits from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. so you could argue...
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governor romney's running mate says he agrees with something that vice president joe biden said today in north carolina. team fox coverage from the trail coming up here a bit later on the fox report. first, a virtual army of border patrol agents, sheriffs investigators and the f.b.i. now combing the mexican border to find who ever shot and killed one of their own. it happened earlier today near the town of naco, southeast of tucson in a known drug smuggling corridor there. three border patrol agents were together when the shooting happened. the agent who died is nicholas ivy, 30 years old. another of the agents wounded, but expected to survive, and a third was unhurt. >> the f.b.i. is at the scene is investigating and is going to get to the bottom of this. >> all of this now not far from the border patrol station named for brian terry, the last agent fatally shot in the line of duty. investigators found guns linked to the failed weapons sting operation fast and furious at the scene where he died in 2010. william lajeunesse with the news live tonight in los angeles. william? >> bill, n
governor romney's running mate says he agrees with something that vice president joe biden said today in north carolina. team fox coverage from the trail coming up here a bit later on the fox report. first, a virtual army of border patrol agents, sheriffs investigators and the f.b.i. now combing the mexican border to find who ever shot and killed one of their own. it happened earlier today near the town of naco, southeast of tucson in a known drug smuggling corridor there. three border patrol...
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joe biden. >> don't boo, he is the best thing we got going, guys. in a brief moment of clarity, he told us what we already knew. >> they say they expect him to call on the gop. the president has repeatedly said that he has not said how he will do it. but in an interview with a denver tv station, romney began to do just that. >> you could say everybody will get up to a $17,000 deduction, and you canchartible deduction, or mortgage deduction. >> romney officials will not say if they are one-liners saved up for tonight, but they say it will not be difficult to go after the president on the economy. translation, wolf, i think that means we'll have to wait and see what happens tonight. meanwhile, the romney campaign, or a romney family member has tried to take romney supporters out there and the rest of americans looking forward to tonight's debate inside the romney campaign debate preparations between mitt romney and rob portman, the ohio senator playing the roll of president obama. he tweeted out a picture earlier today of the two men in debate prepara
joe biden. >> don't boo, he is the best thing we got going, guys. in a brief moment of clarity, he told us what we already knew. >> they say they expect him to call on the gop. the president has repeatedly said that he has not said how he will do it. but in an interview with a denver tv station, romney began to do just that. >> you could say everybody will get up to a $17,000 deduction, and you canchartible deduction, or mortgage deduction. >> romney officials will not...
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vice president biden will do very, very well. he knows what has been going on. he is in touch with the american public, and i'm just hopeful mr. ryan will tell the truth. romney's former debate coach gave his opinion on how the next debate will go. i am sure vp biden got a call from the white house that said we didnt go after gov. romney as much so you have got to turn up the heat. i think both men will be very prepared. biden says he's ready. so all debates are tough but i'm looking forward to it. i really am. foreign and domestic policy issues both will be in play thursday night. it's the only vice presidential debate before the november 6th election. i'm cristina mutchler reporting >> chicago peace activist protested the 11th anniversary of the war in afghanistan today . the protesters marched from tribune tower to obama campaign headquarters. they called for an end to the war in afghanistan... and more money for jobs in the education and health care. nine organizations a co-sponsor today's anti-war protest >> coming up... something we haven't seen from nasa
vice president biden will do very, very well. he knows what has been going on. he is in touch with the american public, and i'm just hopeful mr. ryan will tell the truth. romney's former debate coach gave his opinion on how the next debate will go. i am sure vp biden got a call from the white house that said we didnt go after gov. romney as much so you have got to turn up the heat. i think both men will be very prepared. biden says he's ready. so all debates are tough but i'm looking forward to...
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if you go way back in history for joe biden that campaign ended. but in the early going in the spring and summer that year, he had a reputation for being a powerful performer for performing well that summer. but you know take that away. there was a lot of unfairness. he was a strong communicator and strong debater. >> look, folks, i know we all don't have access to governor romney's accountant. i thought last night when he said i would like to introduce my accountant to that. i would love to have his accountant. but look, we understand, someone ends up paying for all of this. >> crystal, joe biden has the touch with that sort of thing. he does and that is funny. and that helps. that is always helpful and the other thing that i would note from this performance in 2008 and also from this speech is how loyal he is. nothing is about him. it is about the president and the president's plans and an attack on governor romney. and at that time in 2008. i noticed that palin focused on her record and her family. it was me centered and i can see paul ryan walk
if you go way back in history for joe biden that campaign ended. but in the early going in the spring and summer that year, he had a reputation for being a powerful performer for performing well that summer. but you know take that away. there was a lot of unfairness. he was a strong communicator and strong debater. >> look, folks, i know we all don't have access to governor romney's accountant. i thought last night when he said i would like to introduce my accountant to that. i would love...
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joe biden says the middle class has been buried the last four years. all the statistics tell us the entrepreneurial spirit of the his andish community is very real. these things are being hurt by the big government policies of this government. megyn: romney has not been doing as well as even mccain. >> those polls take into account people who have been voting for the democratic party for 30 years. we need to look at those voters who are swing voters who are open-minded about who who they are going to vote for. 70-30 is not the number in florida. megyn: the latest poll shows obama up 1 point in your state. 1 point. he needs -- governor romney needs to win florida. why do you think he's not higher? >> the governor? it's going to be a close race. flares always close. remember 2000? even in 2008 walt advantages barack obama tbhilt he only won by handful of points in 2008. i think every election will be very close in these states because of the nature of american politics these days and how it many broken out demographically and people's political preferenc
joe biden says the middle class has been buried the last four years. all the statistics tell us the entrepreneurial spirit of the his andish community is very real. these things are being hurt by the big government policies of this government. megyn: romney has not been doing as well as even mccain. >> those polls take into account people who have been voting for the democratic party for 30 years. we need to look at those voters who are swing voters who are open-minded about who who they...
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you said about joe biden he's the gift that keeps on giving. are you hoping that he's going to be giving a sprinkling of presents back to you guys? >> i don't know but i hope he repeats this latest one, where the middle class america has been buried for the last four years. right, joe. in fact, you might use that in your opening statement. by the way, personally, i've got to tell you something, piers. personally, joe biden and i have been friends for many, many years. i enjoy his company. he's a very good guy, personally, so it's not as if i -- but honest to god, he still is a heartbeat away from the presidency and when some of the things he says, you know, you're slack-jawed. but i think he'll be well-prepared for this debate. i would remind you, he didn't do that well against sarah palin, so -- but also, paul ryan is a real policy wonk. he knows all the details. so if i were advising paul ryan, and i am not, they just haven't asked for it, i would say be careful that you don't come across as somebody who gets down into the weeds about omb num
you said about joe biden he's the gift that keeps on giving. are you hoping that he's going to be giving a sprinkling of presents back to you guys? >> i don't know but i hope he repeats this latest one, where the middle class america has been buried for the last four years. right, joe. in fact, you might use that in your opening statement. by the way, personally, i've got to tell you something, piers. personally, joe biden and i have been friends for many, many years. i enjoy his company....
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i remember your debate with joe biden, folks in the main stream media expected you to lose, and poll results afterwards thought -- said americans thought you won. i wonder how the expectations gain plays into this. i know it gets a little too punditry, and i'm not in that camp, but from the expectations game, if they were low for mitt romney, did that help him, and did he comport himself well as a result? >> well, it was pretty fascinating to watch both camps try to lower expectations so that there would be no disappointment. afterwards, it was like, oh, come on, guys, you're taking it too far. get on with it. let's hear the plan from both of you and judge from there, but i tell you what the expectations are, at least for me, from henceforth will be that 90% of the liberal media they say, of course, that president obama won the debate. you know, you can expect that. that's common place now that mitt romney, a conservative, will not be begin a fair shot overall when the media will generalize what a result was from the debate. you know, that's reality. that's the new reality, but it sh
i remember your debate with joe biden, folks in the main stream media expected you to lose, and poll results afterwards thought -- said americans thought you won. i wonder how the expectations gain plays into this. i know it gets a little too punditry, and i'm not in that camp, but from the expectations game, if they were low for mitt romney, did that help him, and did he comport himself well as a result? >> well, it was pretty fascinating to watch both camps try to lower expectations so...
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but biden is out preparing. i remember the debates in 2008s primary and presidential and after that, the vice presidential debate, joe biden does pretty well, right? >>guest: a lot of conservatives have been licking their chops since paul ryan announced as the running mate and could not wait, had the day circles saying it will be a bloodbath. i think paul ryan is a very able debater. he has great command of the facts particularly on economic issues. i expect a strong debate performance from him. the idea that it will be a totally lopsided bloodbath like we saw in denver, by the way, that could overstate it a little bit because at least, joe biden is going to come out more energized and engaged than the president was in denver. just the body language that the play some what to biden's advantage, even if he is sort of off the beaten trail as he so often is. >>eric: lets me push back, after the debate on wednesday night, where mitt romney seemed to -- can we pull up that poll? 72 percent of the people think that mi
but biden is out preparing. i remember the debates in 2008s primary and presidential and after that, the vice presidential debate, joe biden does pretty well, right? >>guest: a lot of conservatives have been licking their chops since paul ryan announced as the running mate and could not wait, had the day circles saying it will be a bloodbath. i think paul ryan is a very able debater. he has great command of the facts particularly on economic issues. i expect a strong debate performance...